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My viewpoints.... I figured I'd put this out there for the rest of you not in bed with Loker.

PS3 - The has potential to be the next "beast" console with nvidia's RSX chip. Makes a compeling case for waiting to upgrade my video card.

Xbox 360 - Extension of my media center PC, I like the idea but I already have a computer intended for use below the television.

Wii - IT JUST SCREAMS FUN! It's all about the games and I hope they continue to deliver with killer titles(Twilight Princes, Excite Truck, Super Mario Galaxy, etc.)

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Now, here's the argument....

The Wii's $250 and brings the most innovation to the table, suck it up and buy one. Now, what to do about the 360/PS3 dilema? The PS3 has 1080p HD resolution and HDMI connectors that allow it to cram about twice as many pixels onto the screen as the 360. Blu-ray player is built in and according to Sony the average PS3 game requires 17GB of storage, while 360 games are limited to 8.9GB per disk. Just think about the possibilities for the PS3 with the ability to store 50GB of data on each disk! The PS3 has two teraflops of floating-point performance (also twice that of the Xbox 360). The PS3 really has the upper hand in terms of technology, anything made for a 360 could in theory be ported over to a PS3, the same cannot be said about the inverse...

The core 360 is still more expensive than the Wii and really doesn't offer anything that compels me to buy one. With the addition of the $199 HD-DVD peripheral you begin to think that maybe the PS3 really is a good deal. And whats with Xbox live? Why would I pay money to play shitty online games when I have a PC that can play Halo(with better controls) just as easily?

I think PS3 games and applications will only improve in time, it seems like it will have a much longer technological "lifespan" than 360... On the plus side for Microsoft, if the previous generations tell us anything I think there is a good possibility of an Xbox 720 in couple years. I'm not going to buy a PS3 yet, but I will never buy an Xbox (360).

So when do you guys expect the first aftermarket PS3 controller with rumble to be available? I'm giving it 6 months to a year.

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6 months max...quote me on that.

and ya, i've had alot of discussions with other people about this same thing....and it mostly comes down to Blue-ray vs HD-DVD....not the consoles themselves...though some bring up the fact that there aren't many games for the PS3 that are worth buying it for, nor are there any in the near future.

But, what most people are overlooking is the coding for this console...the 360 has been out for awhile...most companies have what their going to write for it pretty much covered...they jsut have to modify. PS3 on the other hand is starting from scratch, not to mention they have at least 2 times the amount of coding to do...if not more. Also, the Blue-ray option was officially announced later than expected and game developers then had to kick it into overdrive to get something out.

Now, back to the Blue-ray/HD-DVD issue. Some are thinking that this is going to kill sony. Why i ask? first off, Blue-ray is not sony...it's the Blue-Ray Association, made up of over 250 companies including Sony, Disney, Universal Studios, Phillips, Dell, and many more name brands we all know. HD-DVD is backed by Toshiba(great company), NEC, Microsoft, and some others that most havent ever heard before. So, Blue-ray has the upper hand on support.

Now, the other thing...proprietary. Blue-ray may have that DRM technology(Digital Rights Management), but who's to say it will be on all of them? as far as games go, Blue-ray is region free. Movies now only have 3 regions. So, you tell me, even with DRM, the piracy support this world has for software and such, how will they not break it? They seem to break every other protection stuff that's put on movies and games these days. Now, the only thing Blue-ray has to worry about is if they end up doing that watermark thing I've heard about....where the hardware itself will be required to have a reader that checks for the watermark...like on your payroll checks...so that in order for that player to play that disc, it has to match the data that's on it and be the right watermark. That right there could be the only thing that would hurt them. But i don't see that coming...and if it does, it'll be because the RIAA and MIAA has made it mandatory, and if they do that, they'll do that same thing to HD-DVD....so either way it doesn't matter lol.

So, the only thing we'll have to look for is if Blue-ray will be as open as DVDs/CDs, and/or if the RIAA/MIAA decides it's time to take over our gov't.

personally, with the picture quality and the ability to store so much more information, i plan on putting my support for Blue-ray....let's just hope it doesn't go the way of the Betamax. lol.

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though some bring up the fact that there aren't many games for the PS3 that are worth buying it for, nor are there any in the near future.

But what is there for the Xbox? They're on they're second generation of games already and all they have to show for it is Gears of War. I think Gears of War looks to be a really, really awesome game, but it's still just another FPS and doesn't really bring anything new to the table. Because the Core Xbox 360 is so cheap I have no doubt they will sell a shitload of them, but in the end they are stuck in the middle between the PS3 and Wii.

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personally, with the picture quality and the ability to store so much more information, i plan on putting my support for Blue-ray....let's just hope it doesn't go the way of the Betamax. lol.

As I see it, more pixels + more gigabytes means Sony will have the edge in movie picture quality and gaming immersion. Because Sony waited for the technology, Microsoft has the lead in sales but the PS3 is the superior system. Microsoft has the best software right now, but Sony has the best hardware and lets face it with updates, software doesn't matter too much when I'm putting my money down. I aspire to get the most technology I can for my dollar and right now thats the PS3, when you consider the cost of the tv, dvd player, Blu-ray player, etc. the PS3 really isn't unreasonable. Of course I also had a 3D0 before my Playstation and I can tell you it was lightyears ahead of its time. I think that the the $600 price tag will drive some moderate buyers away(I call it the video game stigma), and because of this Blu-ray may go the way of the Beta(I have one of these too!). It all depends on if people do the research before going to the store and if Sony developers can make that next gotta have title.

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Gears of War is awesome ...single player it's better than PS3s Resistance.....but in multiplayer....GoW can only have 8 players...where as Resistance caps out at 40!....plus there's a lot more you can do on the multiplayer, no duh since you have close to 30 more GB to work with lol.

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Thought this was interesting....

Seagate, who already supplies Microsoft with 20GB hard drives for the Xbox 360, scores another win by supplying Sony with 20 and 60GB drives for the PlayStation 3. The hard drive found in the 'fully loaded' version of the PlayStation 3 is a 60GB 2.5" Seagate Momentus 5400.2. The mobile drive runs on the SATA 1.5Gbps interface, spins at 5400 RPM and has average seek times of 12.5ms.

What's different from Microsoft's implementation is that the hard drive is easily accessible via a special compartment on the console. Just a flip of the lid and a removal of a few screws is all that's required to separate the hard drive from the system. What's even more interesting is that Sony explicitly states in its Safety and Support manual that the system will accept any 2.5" SATA hard drive, which will eliminate any user cries of storage limitations like what Xbox 360 owners are experiencing. People getting (or stuck with) the 20GB version of the PlayStation 3 could easily upgrade to a drive that would surpass its more expensive older brother. This also opens up the opportunity of upgrading to a faster, 7200 RPM drive. At DailyTech, we've already attempted to use a 3.5" 320GB hard drive (with some creative cabling), and had no problem utilizing the new drive.

The process in changing to another SATA drive is remarkably simple. All one needs to do in install the new hard drive in the reverse manner of removing it, and the system will alert the user on boot-up that a new drive is detected and needs to be formatted. After the format, the system fully recognizes the change in storage space and moves along with nary a hitch.

All in all, the PlayStation 3 is one of the most takeapart-ready consoles we've ever seen, an enormous departure from the Xbox 360 mentality. We've already completed our first hack by attaching a 320GB hard drive to the console, and the system hasn't even launched in the US yet. The PlayStation 2 was one of the most difficult consoles to disassemble and hack, yet we're not even out the door yet and things seem to bode well for the brave hacker and the PlayStation 3.

www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4908&www.reghardware.co.uk

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see...I let others play around with that shit so I can see what actually works...less chances of me breaking something that I can't afford if u know what i mean lol.