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Post by Loker on Dec 3, 2007 17:25:24 GMT -5
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Post by euclidean© on Dec 4, 2007 12:58:44 GMT -5
Sweet  ....but i'm more of a LCD kind of guy  |
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Post by Loker on Dec 4, 2007 13:33:55 GMT -5
LCD is bad....only good for text and mobility....
when FED,SED, or OLED come then CRT can finally rest in peace....but LCD, DLP, LCoS, and Plasma are all inferior....
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Post by Loker on Dec 4, 2007 15:11:11 GMT -5
well its here....and it was not nearly as bad to move as I was expecting....
I am still letting it warm up before I do fine tuning....but so far it looks like convergence might be off by a hair in the bottom corner....easy fix though....
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Post by euclidean© on Dec 4, 2007 17:20:31 GMT -5
umm...maybe bad for excessive perfectionists....but it works wonderfully well for me and generally every other gamer on the planet . I agree that the CRT is definitely superior to the LCD, but the superiority is not noticed by the everyday user/gamer . |
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Post by Loker on Dec 4, 2007 18:19:56 GMT -5
umm...maybe bad for excessive perfectionists....but it works wonderfully well for me and generally every other gamer on the planet . I agree that the CRT is definitely superior to the LCD, but the superiority is not noticed by the everyday user/gamer . Doom 3 looks 10x better.....I have a PVA LCD right next to it (PVA panels are supposed to have the best blacks of any LCD technology) and it does not hold a candle to this thing.... |
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Post by euclidean© on Dec 4, 2007 20:48:08 GMT -5
eh, I can deal with it lol. |
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Post by Kämpfer on Dec 4, 2007 21:00:41 GMT -5
You know I can see small differences in the back lighting and saturations issues with whites/yellows on my LCD. But you know what it really doesn't bother me - artifacts might - but not color, not nearly as much as having a 100lb brick on my desk.
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Post by Loker on Dec 4, 2007 21:30:33 GMT -5
I am not talking about back lighting....I am talking about black level....
LCD=digital dark gray
CRT=black (when displaying a black image this one actually gets so dark it looks like its off)
It makes Doom 3 and lots of other games look a lot better....also this has input lag of <.01ns while LCD has an input lag of 50 or so ms...
response time also=no lag which wins
and one other big thing is scaling...LCD can not do non-native res's for shit while CRT can do non-native res's like they are nothing....
I am keeping my LCD but it is strictly for LAN's....
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Post by AronMsmith1987 on Dec 4, 2007 21:45:14 GMT -5
I have always used a CRT but thats just cuz it looks so damn good and it is cheap and cost effective on my wallet at this point in time or maybe I am just to cheap to buy something new. LOL
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Post by Loker on Dec 4, 2007 21:55:43 GMT -5
I have always used a CRT but thats just cuz it looks so damn good and it is cheap and cost effective on my wallet at this point in time or maybe I am just to cheap to buy something new. LOL I have seen a properly calibrated cheap CRT beat a properly calibrated expensive LCD... |
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Post by euclidean© on Dec 5, 2007 8:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by derf87 on Dec 5, 2007 10:46:37 GMT -5
Meh, if you don't take your computer anywhere then CRT is the way to go. If you like to take it places, i have no problem sacrificing picture quality for mobility.lol
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Post by Hammer on Dec 5, 2007 11:28:30 GMT -5
thats right i like my crt for home BUT WOULD LOVE a LCD for lan's. Hey Curt is that Dell LCD there at your place that i can use on the 22nd.
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Post by Loker on Dec 5, 2007 11:39:01 GMT -5
LCD is just not a great technology....it is just a stop gap until FED,SED,or OLED....I mean what other technology can the customer buy a defective product and be told that its not defective? |
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Post by euclidean© on Dec 5, 2007 12:54:37 GMT -5
Defective in which sense?
And justin....I believe so. It's a christmas present to Raina's gparents with the computer we got them. In which case they wont get it until Christmas Day....so possibly yes, unless raina wraps it by then, in which case we'll have plenty of better CRTs and a couple LCDs sitting around that'll be extra if you don't want to lug your big monster up here lol.
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Post by Loker on Dec 5, 2007 14:48:28 GMT -5
Defective in which sense? And justin....I believe so. It's a christmas present to Raina's gparents with the computer we got them. In which case they wont get it until Christmas Day....so possibly yes, unless raina wraps it by then, in which case we'll have plenty of better CRTs and a couple LCDs sitting around that'll be extra if you don't want to lug your big monster up here lol. dead pixels....the only company to offer a zero dead pixel policy in the US is Viewsonic....the rest do not see dead pixels as a defect unless you can not see half your screen... |
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Post by Kämpfer on Dec 5, 2007 15:06:31 GMT -5
LCD is a flawed technology but it's a matter of convenience. Isn't it great how we always get into these arguments? New LCDs are way better than the first couple generations, my first Samsung had all sorts of dead pixels and that was the high end model costing me over $400 newer models are much higher quality. Liquid Crystal Displays are still the best technology for small screen sizes and ideal for computer monitors. If you want a flat panel monitor LCDs are pretty much your only choice, plasmas are getting better for 42-60" TVs, and soon OLEDs will own all.
Did anyone notice the OLED story in the news??? I guess OLED production is finally ramping up to satisfy demand for the next gen Dell and Mac notebooks. The official Mac announcement and unveiling is expected Jan 15th.
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Post by Loker on Dec 5, 2007 15:49:42 GMT -5
FED is what interests me....it promises 240Hz refresh rates and deep blacks (OLED promises the same)...and on FED 20% of the emitters have to fail before a pixel will actually die which means dead pixels should be next to impossible to find on FED...
If OLED can overcome the lifetime issue then it and FED should be near identical and then it will just be who can drop cost the fastest....
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....but i'm more of a LCD kind of guy 
